Analysis of the Myth of Garuda and the Nagas
The Mahabharata, Ramayana and the Puranas contain a lot of myths or unbelievable stories. Different people who have analyzed these myths has tried to explain these myths and unbelievable stories in different ways. Let us take an example. There is a passage in Mahabharata (Mbh 1.16) where it describes the birth of the snakes (Nagas) and the bird Garuda. There it says, Kadru and Vinata were two wives of the sage Kasyapa and that they were sisters. Considering the fact that in those days a man took many women for his wives, there are no unbelievable elements in this piece of information. Subsequently it is said that Kadru and Vinata laid eggs and from those eggs were born the snakes as well as the bird named Garuda. This information has an element of unbelievability in it.
For interesting readers the passage in Mahabharata is given below:-
Mahabharata, Book 1: Adi Parva, Upa-parva: Astika Parva, Chapter: 16
In the golden age, Prajapati had two daughters. The sisters were endowed with wonderful beauty. Named Kadru and Vinata, they became the wives of Kasyapa. Kasyapa derived great pleasure from his two wedded wives and being gratified he, resembling Prajapati himself, offered to give each of them a boon. Hearing that their lord was willing to confer on them their choice blessings, those excellent ladies felt transports of joy. Kadru wished to have for sons a thousand snakes all of equal splendour. And Vinata wished to bring forth two sons surpassing the thousand offsprings of Kadru in strength, energy, size of body, and prowess. Unto Kadru her lord gave that boon about a multitude of offspring. And unto Vinata also, Kasyapa said, ‘Be it so!’ Then Vinata, having; obtained her prayer, rejoiced greatly. Obtaining two sons of superior prowess, she regarded her boon fulfilled. Kadru also obtained her thousand sons of equal splendour. ‘Bear the embryos carefully,’ said Kasyapa, and then he went into the forest, leaving his two wives pleased with his blessings.’
“Sauti continued, ‘O best of regenerate ones, after a long time, Kadru brought forth a thousand eggs, and Vinata two. Their maid-servants deposited the eggs separately in warm vessels. Five hundred years passed away, and the thousand eggs produced by Kadru burst and out came the progeny. But the twins of Vinata did not appear. Vinata was jealous, and therefore she broke one of the eggs and found in it an embryo with the upper part developed but the lower one undeveloped. At this, the child in the egg became angry and cursed his mother, saying. ‘Since thou hast prematurely broken this egg, thou shall serve as a slave. Shouldst thou wait five hundred years and not destroy, or render the other egg half-developed, by breaking it through impatience, then the illustrious child within it will deliver thee from slavery! And if thou wouldst have the child strong, thou must take tender care of the egg for all this time!’ Thus cursing his mother, the child rose to the sky. O Brahmana, even he is the charioteer of Surya, always seen in the hour of morning!
“Then at the expiration of the five hundred years, bursting open the other egg, out came Garuda, the serpent-eater.
Extraction of truth from the myth
There are several ways to explain this myth. One way is to believe that all the information expressed in this narration as true. This require us to believe that all of the following information listed below are true.
- A man (sage Kasyapa) can have two or many woman as his wives (Kadru, Vinata)
- Kasyapa was fully satisfied with his two wives and wanted to fulfill their wishes, as he was so pleased with them
- A competent person (like sage Kasyapa) can give boons
- Boons will realize, however impossible it may seem to be
- A woman would like to have snakes as her sons
- A woman would like to have birds as her sons
- A woman would like to have thousand sons
- A woman would like to have two great sons, stronger than numerous sons of another women
- A woman can lay eggs
- Eggs needs warmth to develop the embryos within them: this is even so for the eggs of snakes and birds
- Maid servants of Kadru and Vinata kept eggs, from which snakes and birds are supposed to be hatched, separately in warm vessels
- An egg may take 500 to 1000 years to fully develop
- Kadru and Vinata lived for more than 1000 years
- If an undeveloped egg (of a bird) is broken we may see an undeveloped embryo (of a bird) in it
- After half the development, half part of the embryo will be developed
- The body develops from head to toe, so that after half the development upper half of the body will be fully developed
- A bird (Aruna) as it broke from egg, half developed, can speak and rise in the air
- What a bird(Aruna) spoke was intelligible to Vinata
- A competent person (like Aruna) can curse
- Curses will realize, how ever possible or impossible it may seem to be
- Vinata will serve / served as a slave
- Garuda, the son of Vinata, ended the slavery of Vinata
- Surya is traveling in a chariot
- Aruna became the charioteer of Surya
- Aruna, the charioteer of Surya was the son of Vinata
- Surya, who travels in a chariot, is the sun
- Surya, the sun is travelling in a chariot
- Aruna, the charioteer of Surya was a bird
- Garuda was the son of Vinata
- Garunda eats / ate snakes (serpents)
- There are birds that took 1000 years to develop in an egg
- There are birds that eat snakes
- Garuda is a bird
- Garuda, the son of Vinata, who ended her slavery, was a bird
- Garuda, a bird, took 1000 years to develop in an egg
Another way of explanation will be based on filtering the information that seems to be rational from the information that seems to be irrational or impossible
Let us see if we can filter these individual pieces of information as rational or irrational, possible or impossible, true or false:-
- A man (sage Kasyapa) can have two or many woman as his wives (Kadru, Vinata) - POSSIBLE, POLYGAMY WAS VERY COMMON THEN
- Kasyapa was fully satisfied with his two wives and wanted to fulfill their wishes, as he was so pleased with them - POSSIBLE
- A competent person (like sage Kasyapa) can give boons - POSSIBLE
- A woman would like to have snakes as her sons - POSSIBLE FOR A WOMAN TO DREAM LIKE THAT; A WOMAN CAN ALSO RAISE SNAKES AS PETS AND CONSIDER THEM AS HER CHILDREN
- A woman would like to have birds as her sons - POSSIBLE FOR A WOMAN TO DREAM LIKE THAT; A WOMAN CAN ALSO RAISE BIRDS AS PETS AND CONSIDER THEM AS HER CHILDREN
- A woman would like to have thousand sons - POSSIBLE FOR A WOMAN TO WISH FOR 1000 SONS
- A woman would like to have two great sons, stronger than numerous sons of another women - POSSIBLE FOR A WOMEN TO WISH LIKE THAT
- Eggs needs warmth to develop the embryos within them: this is even so for the eggs of snakes and birds - TRUE
- Maid servants of Kadru and Vinata kept eggs, from which snakes and birds are supposed to be hatched, separately in warm vessels - POSSIBLE
- If an undeveloped egg (of a bird) is broken we may see an undeveloped embryo (of a bird) in it - TRUE
- After half the development, half part of the embryo will be developed - MORE OR LESS TRUE
- A competent person (like Aruna) can curse - POSSIBLE
- Vinata will serve / served as a slave - POSSIBLE
- Garuda, the son of Vinata, ended the slavery of Vinata - POSSIBLE
- Surya is traveling in a chariot - POSSIBLE, IF WE TAKE SURYA TO BE A MAN
- Aruna became the charioteer of Surya - POSSIBLE, IF SURYA AND ARUNA ARE TWO MEN
- Aruna, the charioteer of Surya was the son of Vinata - POSSIBLE
- Garuda was the son of Vinata - POSSIBLE
- Garunda eats /ate snakes (serpents) - POSSIBLE, EVEN NOW FOR SOME CULTURES (EG:-CHINESE), SNAKE IS A FAVORITE FOOD
- There are birds that eat snakes- TRUE
- Garuda is a bird - POSSIBLE TO HAVE A BIRD TO BE NAMED GARUDA
- A woman can lay eggs - IMPOSSIBLE (WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE EGG-CELLS FORMED IN THE OVARY)
- Boons will realize, however impossible it may seem to be - IMPOSSIBLE
- Curses will realize, how ever possible or impossible it may seem to be - IMPOSSIBLE
- An egg may take 500 to 1000 years to fully develop - IMPOSSIBLE, ANCIENT PEOPLE COULD HAVE BELIEVED SO
- Kadru and Vinata lived for more than 1000 years - IMPOSSIBLE
- The body develops from head to toe, so that after half the development upper half of the body will be fully developed - FALSE
- A bird (Aruna) as it broke from egg, half developed, can speak and rise in the air - IMPOSSIBLE
- What a bird(Aruna) spoke was intelligible to Vinata - IMPOSSIBLE
- Surya, who travels in a chariot, is the sun - IMPOSSIBLE
- Surya, the sun is travelling in a chariot - FALSE, THIS WAS THE ANCIENT BELIEF
- Aruna, the charioteer of Surya was a bird - IMPOSSIBLE
- There are birds that took 1000 years to develop in an egg - IMPOSSIBLE, ANCIENT PEOPLE COULD HAVE BELIEVED SO
- Garuda, the son of Vinata, who ended her slavery, was a bird - IMPOSSIBLE
- Garuda, a bird, took 1000 years to develop in an egg - IMPOSSIBLE
Thus we have seen that around 5/7th part of information contained in this myth about Garuda is rational / possible / true while around 2/7th of it is irrational / impossible or false. We have seen one way of explaining the myth is accepting all of these as facts. Yet another way of explaining the myth is to reject the entire myth as false or as pure imagination, because there are impossibilities / irrationality / falsehood. For some analysts, the presence of a single impossibility / irrationality / falsehood is enough to reject the entire myth as false or pure fiction.
These (accepting the entire myth as completely true, rejecting the entire myth as completely false) are two extreme cases of myth-analysis. There are other ways of analysis that falls between these two extreme cases of analysis. An example of such an analysis is, constructing an explanation for the myth after rejecting the negative (impossible, irrational, false) statements, but using the positive (possible, rational, true) statements as a basis of explanation. Some analysts will explain the myth by bridging the gap between positive statements using other statements that are contextually in agreement with the available positive statements. Some others will try to convert negative statements into positive by basing their explanations on theories that are beyond the myth itself (for example, the theory of ancient-alien-presence, the theory of ancient scientific excellence, the theory of divine intervention or divinity, the theory of infallibility of scriptures etc)
Myth Analysis: Different Approaches
Let us see roughly, how the myth will be explained using these various ways of myth-analysis:-
- Blind Acceptance: The entire myth is absolutely true(Thousand snakes are born from a women, two birds are born from another, hatched from eggs laid by these women, who lived for 1000s of years)
- Complete Rejection: The entire myth is false and an imagination (Snakes and birds are never born of women, women never lay eggs from which snakes and birds are hatched, there is no existence to Kadru, Vinata, Kashyapa, Garuda or Aruna as they are part of an imaginative story)
- Filtered Acceptance: There is some truth in the myth but there is some falsehood (Women never lay eggs to give rise to snakes and birds; nobody lives for 1000s of years; but Kasyapa, Kardu, Vinata, Aruna, Garuda and Surya existed; Aruna and Garuda could be sons of Vinata; Aruna later could have become charioteer of Surya; Aruna might had some bodily disability below abdomen; Garuda could have ended slavery of Vinata, who for some time lived as a slave (of Kadru); Garuda could have eaten snakes for food, like many people we know today)
- Filtered Acceptance with Additions: There is some truth in the myth, but there are some gaps to be bridged and some falsehood to be discarded (Women never lay eggs to give rise to snakes and birds; nobody lives for 1000s of years; but Kasyapa, Kardu, Vinata, Aruna, Garuda and Surya existed; Kadru and Vinata were wives of Kashyapa; Kadru was fond of snakes, who used to raise snakes as pets; Vinata was jealous of Kadru, disliked snakes and liked birds who predate on snakes; Kasyapa, pleased with Kadru, gave here 1000 snake eggs; Kasyapa, pleased with Vinata, gave her 2 eggs of a bird (possibly hawk) that predate on snakes; Kasyapa mentioned wives to preserve the embryos inside the eggs very well and left. Maid-servants kept the eggs each in warm vessels to preserve the embryos; Kadru's eggs hatched first and she raised the 1000 snakes as her own sons; Bird eggs of Vinata took long time to hatch. An impatient Vinata broke open one of the eggs. She was shocked to find that the embryo was only half developed, horrifyingly mixed with fresh red (Aruna = red) blood!. The half developed bird embryo struggled to breath and died. Vinata felt guilty of what she did. She felt like the soul of the dead bird going up and merging with the morning son that shone red (Aruna = red) in the eastern horizon at that time; She felt that the bird's soul is cursing her, for what she had done to it; In the later stages of her life when she had to live like a slave (of Kadru), she felt it was due to her sin of breaking the half developed egg; the other egg hatched properly and a bird was born; She named the bird Garuda; that bird started eating snakes as its food; Vinata was very happy to see it devouring snakes and secretly wished to feed all of Kadru's pet snake to him. Later, Kadru and Vinata got many sons born of Kasyapa. Vinata named her first son in memory of the dead bird and named him Aruna (the red one). Aruna might also had some (minor?) bodily disability below abdomen (like a weak leg?), by birth or post birth; This son Aruna, in his later life became the charioteer of king Surya; She named her second son as Garuda in the fond memory of the other bird; Garuda in his later life ended slavery of Vinata; Garuda was fond of eating snakes as food, which became part of his non-vegetarian diet, probably encouraged by his mother Vinata, who hated Kadru and her snakes; Kadru's sons and grandsons themselves were font of snakes, like Kadru; They later developed into a race called the Nagas who worshiped the snakes as part of their culture, religion and ritual; They raised snakes as pets in their dwellings; Vinata's sons including Garuda, and her grandsons hated snakes and they worshiped birds (like hawks) that predated on snakes, and raised these birds as pets in their dwellings; they later developed into a race called the Suparnas / Garudas / Vainateyas. They ate snakes as part of their food-habits and became arch rivals of the Nagas;)
- Acceptance invoking aliens: There is some truth in the myth and what seems to be falsehood can be explained scientifically (Vinata and Kadru were two alien ladies, who laid eggs for reproduction; After uniting with the human Kashyapa, they laid eggs; Kadru laid 1000 eggs from which were born 1000 snakes and Vinata laid 2 eggs from which were born the two birds Aruna and Garuda; the snakes and the birds Aruna and Garuda had the human genes of sage Kasyapa, so they can speak in human language; Since they were alien, they lived for thousands of years and it took 500 to 1000 years to hatch the eggs; the snake sons of Kadru later developed into the Naga race; since they had human genes in them they could transform into a human form if needed and at other times appear as snakes; similarly Vinata's bird like son Garuda, since he too possessed human genes had the traits of humans and birds; Vinata's first son Aruna, who had some bodily disability below the abdomen, probably due to improper human-alien genetic combination, aggravated by the fact that the egg was broken prematurely, became an associate of Surya who was an alien astronaut who was in control of the sun (probably in charge of controlling solar winds that affect the weather on Earth))
- Acceptance invoking divinity: The myth is true and what seems to be falsehood has a divine explanation (Vinata and Kadru were not humans; they were divine beings created by god Brahma (through Prajapati) and so is sage Kasyapa; For divine beings, everything is possible, including giving birth by laying eggs. So there is no wonder if Kadru gave birth through 1000 snakes by laying thousand eggs and if Vinata gave birth to Aruna and Garuda by laying two divine eggs. Snakes were also divine; Some like Ananta and Vasuki were gods; Some like Takshaka and most other snakes became devious and dangerous; Garuda is a powerful god; Aruna was indeed born exactly as explained in the myth, as he too is a god and is capable of doing what he did and went to sun-god Surya to became his charioteer. Contrary to what astronomers think today, the sun-god is indeed driven by Aruna in a chariot across our skies and it is of no use questioning this divine principle.)
Variant Approaches
There can also be several variations to each of these typical explanations. For example yet another scientific explanation may invoke the theory of ancient scientific excellence, which believes that all the modern science as we know it today and much more of it were known to the people of the ancient world. So, based on that one would say that, since science was well advanced in those periods so that it was possible for Kadru and Vinata or somebody on behalf of them, to take their egg-cells in the ovary, fertilize it with sperm of Kasyapa, infuse them into eggs, probably eggs of snakes and birds and probably adding the genes of snakes and birds as well. This is the acceptance based on ancient scientific excellence.
Similarly, akin to the divine explanation one can invoke the theory of infallibility of the scriptures, that everything written in the scriptures, including Mahabharata, cannot be false and so however hard they are to believe, all of it must be true due to reasons unknown to humans and modern science. This is acceptance based on the infallibility of scriptures.
One can also form variants of the explanation detailed in "Filtered Acceptance with Additions" as follows. There were two tribes. There were a tribe called the Nagas who as part of their culture and religion, worshiped the snakes as a ritual, raised them as pets. There were this other tribe called the Suparnas, who in complete contrast, hated the snakes, ate them as part of their diet, worshiped snake-eating birds as part of their culture and religion, raised them as pets and enjoyed the sight of these birds eating snakes. It is natural for these tribes, if co-existed in a common territory to fight each other. There could be several wars between them. There could be wars of words, and wars using fables and stories countering one another. They might have had blood relations in the past. So they might have invented common fables about their ancestral origins. The story of Kadru and Vinata could be such a story of common ancestral origin prevailed in the society of the Nagas and the Suparnas. Perhaps a lady like Kadru, actually existed in the past who loved snakes like her children and so did another lady Vinata, who may or may not be related to her, but who loved the snake eating birds instead. Perhaps the tribes of Nagas and Suparnas believed they derived their ancestry from these ladies. Perhaps their ancestry is actually derived from these ladies.
Belief of eggs taking five hundred or hundreds of years to hatch can also be explained. Like our modern day archeologists, the ancient people also might have encountered fossilized remains of dinosaurs and dinosaur-eggs. Skeletal remains of flying creatures, huge in size, unearthed during the mining for metal ores or during the construction of palaces and buildings, might have resulted in stories about giant birds. Similarly fossil remains of huge reptiles and snakes of the Jurassic age, can give rise to stories about huge serpents (and dragons mentioned in Chinese mythology). Ancient people might have got fossilized dinosaur eggs, and have seen fossilized dinosaur embryos inside such eggs. People who got them might have had the curiosity to see them hatched and see the giant birds and snakes emerging out of them. With such hopes, they might have preserved these eggs for a few generations, lasting for a few centuries, hoping that the eggs will hatch at some point of time. Irrespective of if anybody saw anything hatching out of these fossilized eggs, all of these observations could have resulted in the myth of huge eggs taking five hundred or thousand years to hatch, and when they hatched giant serpents and birds emerged out of them.
Conclusion
Usually a myth is analyzed in relations with other myths. I have here analyzed the myth of the birth of Garuda and the Nagas, in isolation, as an example. Here, one can as well consider analyzing other related myths like the myth of the birth of Kasyapa along with other seven sages, of the birth of Kadru and Vinata along with many other daughters of Prajapati Daksha or the other myths about Garuda, Surya, or the Nagas like Ananta and Vasuki.
Different people, based on their understanding and orientation, would like to believe or follow some or other the explanations of the myth as explained above. There can be many other methods to de-mystify myths, which may or may not fall to one of the categories explained above. Here I have explained the myth of the birth of Garuda and the Nagas and saw some of the typical myth-analysis paradigms. Similarly we can de-mystify any other myth described in the Mahabharata, Ramayana, the Puranas and other ancient texts. Examples for such myths include the myth of Garuda bringing Amruta from the heaven, the myth of the divine births of the Pandavas, the myth of the birth of the hundred sons of Gandhari from a dead featus, incarnation myths etc. I shall delve into each of these myths some other time. I welcome you also to think about these from different perspectives. Thus we will be able to decipher hidden layers of information inherent in these ancient voices.
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Created by Jijith Nadumuri at 09 Jan 2010 10:30 and updated at 24 Sep 2014 09:04
Hi
you have skillfully illustrated the different approaches in analyzing the myths and explaining them. I am certainly not in favor of the blind acceptance or blind rejection. I am more inclined to an alien explanation though. Why can't the Devas, Gandharvas, Garuda be aliens? I think aliens interacted with ancient civilizations in India, Egypt, Atlantis etc.
Check out these link:-
http://www.world-famous.com/DavidHamelStuff/Hamel-Part4-Shop/index.htm
http://www.skepdic.com/atlantis.html
Thanks Manish
As I explained in this article, explanation based on alien-theories also is a valid view-point to look at some of the strange narrations found in the Indian epics and most of the Puranas of India. However I tend to incline towards an explanation that does not depend on aliens. I will wait for more evidences about alien intervention especially in ancient India, in order to shift my focus more on a view-point or theory based on alien interventions.
Probably I will discuss this in another article.
Thanks for your links.
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dear sir,
can i get details about NAGAMANIKKAM.? (WHICH IS FROM COBRA'S HOODS..)
THANX ®ARDS
SRIRAM
CHENNAI
Hi
I have no knowledge of Naga-Manikyam, or where it can be found. I guess you are referring to the jewl mentioned as possessed by the Nagas as per many myths and fables. Naga kings were wealthy. They possessed many jewls and costly metals in their treasury. Their mansions were beautiful and made of costly materials. They wore costly robes and ornaments decked with many precious jewls. These were all later taken away by their conquerers. Probably this myth arose from this fact. Mythology portrayed all former Naga kings as snakes (yea like Cobra) and thus non-humanized them and was not willing to consider them as humans.
Aswathama who became the ruler (on behalf of Kuru kings at Hastinapura) of the city named Ahichatra (formerly a Naga city and later the northern capital of Panchala kingdom) obtained a precious jewl from the Nagas (this could be Naga-Manikyam). He made it part of his crown. When Pandavas defeated Aswathama, at the fag end of Kurukshetra-war, they took it from him for their wife Panchali.
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I think you have cool infos here. (:
The information you have been providing is very good, de mystifying wrong notions. I would like to know, the birth of pandavas and 100 kauravs
Thanks for your appreciation. On the birth of Pandavas and 100 Kauravas:- You can read these articles:-
http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/src-video-mbh:episode9
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Something which is beyond ur experience or intellectual capability cannot be called a myth.Just bcoz someone is a sanskrit scholar he does not get authority to comment on scriptures . A strong spiritual sadhna ,disciplined & pure lifestyle is needed to understand scriptures & comment on it.U r giving a distorted picture about the stories in puranas, plz rectify it.The word mythology is connoted by British Indologist to show Indian scriptures r useless ,they never said it about Biblical stories
We are not saying that Indian scriptures are useless. On the contrary, we are showing its value usefulness for the whole of humanity. The purpose of this whole web-site is to highlight the value of ancient Indian scriptures. In this article all the different views about the scriptures are given respect, including blind acceptance. Each view point has its merits and demerits.
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I agree with your opinions up to some extent. I feel that Sage Kashyap and his wives were created for the purpose of bringing forth different species. Brahma, who was Kashyap's grandfather gave them the spiritual power to create such species. Of course a woman laying an egg is considered impossible but my reasoning on it is that given the spiritual power they had in those times in addition to being descendants of Brahma, is it not possible for them to shape shift into birds or snakes and give birth accordingly? True the scripture doesn't mention them shape-shifting or something like that but its left for the readers to interpret.
Also not everything that's written down should be taken at face value.
As for the part of Aruna I read somewhere that only the top half of his body had developed which gave him wings and enabled him to fly and talk.
Well, I'm eager to know your opinion on this.
Your reasoning is summarised in the article as approach 1:- Blind Acceptance: The entire myth is absolutely true. I suggest you to read the ancient Indic texts and find out sicne when the concepts / names like 'Brahma' and 'Kasyapa' started to mean what it is known in popular Hinduism of today. Almost all of them has their origin in the Puranas and all the Puranas are later to the core of Mahabharata. A large portion of Mahabharata evolved along with the Puranas.
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Hey, missed out one point in my previous comment so I'm going to put it here…(sorry)
You said that Surya, the sun god traveling in a chariot is impossible because Copernicus said that the earth revolves around the sun.
I agree with Copernicus but I (again) have my own take on this matter:
The sun is stationary according to Copernicus. But it can also be assumed that the sun we see today is just an energy or the material power of the actual sun god. Hene it remains stationary.
But the sun god has a personified form and is not just an energy. Hence again it is possible that the sun god may move around in his chariot. Also it cannot be assumed that the sun god lives right where we see the sun. It is possible that he live on another astral plane. Just because we cannot see such astral bodies with our own eyes it does not mean that they do not exist.
Your reasoning is summarised in the article as approach 1:- "Blind Acceptance: The entire myth is absolutely true." There is ample information available in the Vedas and Puranas to know that the theme "sun travelling in a chariot" is a poetic imagination. While I appreciate the poet for his/her skill of imagination, I do not subscribe to the view that we need chariots tied to horses to travel in outer space.
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Dear Sir, I'm new at this forum and find it very enlightening. But let me tell you with all respect, that I don't believe in your "demystifying". The general reason for that is, that I got another understanding of myth, which is caused in my examination of the content of ancient myths, especially in Platons dialogs. Compare for example the Phaeton myth in Platons Timaios. There you can see, that myth is just a way of passing down real events of ancient times. The way, myth does it, is developed, to keep it better in mind. So to examine myth, you have to distinguish between the mythical form and the content, this form transports.
If we apply this on the myth of the chariot of the sun god Surya, it would show us, that the sun was not believed to be stationary but moving. This is because the solar system is part of a spiral arm of our galaxy. The galaxy is rotating, so the solar system as a whole is moving and there are other levels of movement too. The ancient indian people used the picture of the chariot, to point out this fact of the moving sun, while the ancient egyptian people showed the same fact by painting their gods situated in boats.
I believe that Mahabharata is the ancient History of India preceding the Buddha period. But many myths have been added in it over a period of time. Many mythological stories(story of king Nala etc) were also added in Mahabharata.
I think Sauti told the story of Vyasa's Jaya in an exaggerated way using ornamental language. All the prominent warriors now became equal to Indra and all the duels were similar to that of between Indra and Vritra. Particularly the final duels between Arjuna and Karna and Bhima and Duryodhana were exaggerated a lot.
It seems many myths have been created in later time to glorify some characters of Mahabharata. Such as Bhishma having the boon of "iksha mrityu",Yudhishthira going to heaven with his body, Karna having the "celestial armor and ear rings", Karna getting numerous curses in his life, Ashwattama having narayanastra and Drona having brahmadanda, Bhima having the strength of 10000 elephants etc
Even not so great warriors like Shalya became "invincible" just before their end. They have been glorified mostly using the name of krishna, Bhishma etc. We need to ignore these myths and interpolations and try to find out truth hidden behind them. I think that the core story and the 70% of Mahabharata is real and rest are interpolations and exaggerations.
I agree with your comments generally but no verse in Mahabharata can be ignored even if it is part of a myth. This is because every verse of this text represent a time and a piece of encoded information in our ancient past about which we do not have any other history or any other source of knowledge. We can however set aside certain verses to focus on the verses which have greater historical sense but need to analyse even mythological verses to extract philosophical and cultural elements from those myths. Many myths in Mahabharata appear as abusrd and do not have any historical sense. This is because those myths are not embedding any historical information BUT they are embedding astronomical, geological and sometimes mathematical information. For example Mahabharata mentions that Vasista tried to commit suicide by jumping into Sarasvati and the river then broke into hundred pieces forming the river Sata-dru (Satluj:- Sata-dru means 'with hundred branches'). The poet who contributed this myth to Mahabharata has actually embedded the 'geological information' about the Western drainage system of India. Due to tectonic activity, river Sarasvati migrated from east to west and then from west to east forming many channels and one of them became Satluj river which joined with Indus (Sindhu). Satluj event today has many branches. Similarly Balarama's wife Rohini is mentioned as spending some time in the abode of Brahma and that time turned out to be 1000 years on Earth! This encodes astronomical information regarding the precession of equinox which takes close to 1000 years to move from one star to another in our sky. Rohini is the name of a star and Brahma-sira is the name of a stellar constallation.
Some other verses like the one you mentioned about Bhima having strength of 10000 elephants etc are pure exagerations or the liberty of the poet.
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Dear Jiith,
As we know the original Mahabharata compiled by Vyasa was "Jaya". Over the years many stories were added in the original book of Vyasa and it took its present form during Gupta period. There are many interpolations in Mahabharata, many myths have been added in this epic. You have done a lot of research on Mahabharata. Why don't you try to find out the original story and write a new book that is free of all these myths and interpolations ?
Do you think that the death of all the prominent warriors of Mahabharata have been dramatized by some later authors ? All of them turned into invincible warriors just before their death. I think Shikhandi and Dristidyumna killed Bhishma and Drona respectively in a fair battle and the stories of Bhishma not attacking Shikhandi and Drona's celestial weapons not appearing before his death were added later to cover up their failure. Bhishma and Drona were famed warriors but the impact of the old age on them was evident. They couldn't kill any prominent warrior. What you have to say on this ?
Today it is very difficult to separate out the core 'Jaya' and the middle layer 'Bhaarata' and the outer layer 'Mahaabhaarata' from the whole corpus of the text. But there are certain information that can help us. The text mentions that 'Jaya' the work of Vyasa contains only 8,000 verses out of the 100,000 verses constituting Mahabharata as we know it. These verses of Jaya will not contain Vyasa as a 'character' within, as he is the author. Jaya is narrated by Sanjaya to Dhritarashtra. All of these conditions are satisfied in a portion of Mahabharata starting from Bhishma parva and ending in Sauptika Parva (book 6 to 10). These are the books dealing with Kurukshetra War- Bhishma, Drona, Karna, Shalya and Sauptika parvas. But the total number of verses in these 5 books adds to around 24,000 verses (23,847). This is because Vaisyampayana, the desciple of Vyasa has contributed verses to Vyasa's core Jaya when he recited it to Janamejaya, the great grandson of Arjuna. This second level expansion of Jaya is called 'Bhaarata' and it is recited by Vaishampayana. Thus roughly we can say:- the cores of book 6 to 10 in which Vyasa himself does not appear as a character is the real 'Jaya' of 8000 verses. The rest of the book 6 to 10 is part of Vaisampayana's expansion. This expanded text is called 'Bhaarata' having 24,000 verses (inclusive of the 8000 verses of Jaya). Portions of Mahabharata where Vaisampayana appears in third person is part of Sauti's expansion now called 'MahaaBhaarata'. There are verses in Mahabharata where even Sauti is mentioned in third person. This means the text expanded even after the life-time of Sauti. I do not now accept any absolute chronology of when each expansion took place and so I am non commital about the Gupta period being the time when the text took its current shape.
Creating a Mahabharata text after rejecting what is percieved as later addition will not be a good idea as all these later additions too have information value. It will be a futile excersise like what happened with Bible. A lot of valuable information generated during the formative period of Bible was lost due to such mindless editing and monopolistic views. Traditions which does not fall in line with the majoritarian view were declared herasies. A similar futile exerciese is already done for Mahabharata with the so called 'critical edition of Mahabharata'. Many scholars do not accept the criteria chosen to declare one verse as original and another as later addition.
Regarding your question on the glorification of death (and birth) of war heroes on the side of Kauravas (as well as those on the side of the Pandavas):- Many scholars think in this way. Mahabharata text passed through the hands of many people sympathetic to both the sides and a neutral compiler has added all of these versions into the main corpus.
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The description can be viewed in a slightly different manner.
Kashyapa is a person whose job is to regenerate Earth and then populate it. So we will find different wives and different progenies including dogs (Sarameya from Sarama), River (Iravati) and so on mentioned at different times.
Consider the "Snake" described here as Naga people. The thousand "snakes" are just small but powerful groups of Naga, or may be their kingdom.
Same way, the Garuda and Arun are not birds but kingdoms.
Same way, Kadru and Vinata etc. are metaphors…not necessarily a human being.
There is another story about Indra and Vayu. Vayu's mother was asked to keep vigil while Vayu was in womb. Somehow she fell asleep. Indra went inside the womb and cut the embryo in 49 pieces. It can be realized as a Kingdom in making….jealous Indra divided the people in 49 pieces !
The basic thing is, in most places metaphors are being used to make it easy for people to remember. These Itihasa and Purana were for common people. Veda and Upanishads were for learned people. There metaphors are less, but sometimes more cryptic.
Without understanding metaphors (which, frankly speaking, most of us do not understand), literal study of any epic will create confusion. It is like a English Professor reading a physics book on Quantum mechanics !
regards